ERD Course Required

[ianfirmin]

A couple of people in our club are looking for an ERD course. The local region (NE) cannot give a date for the next one. Can anyone suggest:

1.0 Courses in other regions?

2.0 Alternative courses covering a similar syllabus?

3.0 Anything else?

tia
Ian Firmin

[Nick Kay]

Try Chris Cooke: 07818 077465

[JamesW]

Hi Ian

Haven't you got any instructors in your branch who can teach that SDC??

Thanks
James

[Odin]

I have been informed by HQ it is a Regional run event only.

[Michelle Haywood]

Or a BSAC Technical Centre can also run ERD....

We are running ERD in June and July (as well as SMG and AMG).

If you fancy a trip to the Isle of Man we can get you on the courses.

PM me for details if you are interested.

Michelle

[JamesW]

You can run these in Branches this is the pm I have had from Mike Rowley


All BSAC Technical course are designed to be taught either via a BSAC Technical Centre or with the Coaching Scheme. If taught in the Coaching Scheme any approved instructor may teach a course to his/her branch members if they so wish, the course is booked via HQ and the course documentation is returned to HQ as normal.

Cheers

Mike


Hope this helps

[David Walker]

All BSAC Technical course are designed to be taught either via a BSAC Technical Centre or with the Coaching Scheme. If taught in the Coaching Scheme any approved instructor may teach a course to his/her branch members if they so wish, the course is booked via HQ and the course documentation is returned to HQ as normal.

Doesn't make much sense to me. To paraphrase:

"It can be taught by either a Technical Centre or through the Coaching Scheme".
and
"An approved instructor may teach in-branch"

So, is this limited to only Technical Centres and the Coaching Scheme, or Technical Centres, the Coaching Scheme, and Branches?

Or maybe members of the Coaching Scheme are allowed to teach within their own branch? So can approved instructor be anyone, or are only members of the Coaching Scheme eligible to be approved instructors? Or does someone from the Coaching Scheme have to boss the course but any instructor can be approved to teach on it?

Any clarification Mike?

David

[ianfirmin]

Eeek, thanks for the responses guys. I'm a little confused myself now. First, what's an "SDC"?.

Also, I'm not sure but I don't think we have a qualified instructor in the club but I will ask.

As far as the Isle of Man goes that sounds good. I'll ring Chris Cooke as well.

[David Walker]

Eeek, thanks for the responses guys. I'm a little confused myself now. First, what's an "SDC"?.

SDC is Skill Development Course - ERD is one of them, O2 Admin is another, Boat Handling is another, etc... Basically any BSAC course that isn't an instructor course and isn't OD/SD/DL/AD/FCD.

David

[Jo Brooks]

Try Ray McKee;
http://www.divesystems2000.com/bsac_technical_courses.htm

He is Hull based.

[Mike Rowley]

Doesn't make much sense to me. To paraphrase:

"It can be taught by either a Technical Centre or through the Coaching Scheme".
and
"An approved instructor may teach in-branch"

So, is this limited to only Technical Centres and the Coaching Scheme, or Technical Centres, the Coaching Scheme, and Branches?

Or maybe members of the Coaching Scheme are allowed to teach within their own branch? So can approved instructor be anyone, or are only members of the Coaching Scheme eligible to be approved instructors? Or does someone from the Coaching Scheme have to boss the course but any instructor can be approved to teach on it?

Any clarification Mike?

David


All BSAC Technical courses require an approved instructor to teach them. This means the instructor must hold the appropriate instructor certification to be able to teach the course.

Courses may be run by a BSAC Technical Centre or by the Coaching Scheme, either way the instructor/s must hold the appropriate instructor certification unless under training and under the direct supervision of a BSAC Instructor Trainer (Technical).

In the case of a Coaching Scheme course, an approved instructor applies to HQ for course pack/s, HQ check his/her approval and sends out the packs. The instructor then runs the course and returns the completed paperwork after the event with all moneys collected and instructor expense claim forms.
HQ issues cert cards and logbook stickers and sends QA form to Chief Examiner. Courses are expected to be self supporting financialy. The Regional Coach will be informed of the course and may contact the chief instructor.

If the approved instructor happens to be teaching his/her branch members that is fine, in the same way that any other SDC can be taught. Quite a few SDCs are taught to branch members.

Hope this clarifies the situation.

Mike

[David Walker]

In the case of a Coaching Scheme course, an approved instructor applies to HQ for course pack/s, HQ check his/her approval and sends out the packs. The instructor then runs the course and returns the completed paperwork after the event with all moneys collected and instructor expense claim forms.
HQ issues cert cards and logbook stickers and sends QA form to Chief Examiner. Courses are expected to be self supporting financialy. The Regional Coach will be informed of the course and may contact the chief instructor.

Ok, think i'm nearly with you.

So *anyone* can become an approved instructor, without being part of the regional coaching team?

And those approved instructors can run courses on their own, without having to arrange for someone from the regional coaching team being present?

But the regional coaching team are notified that the course is taking place, and may tell the approved instructor running the course that they may turn up and observe?

I'm still just wondering what the difference is that makes this a "technical centre" or "coaching scheme" only SDC, when the coaching team seemingly don't need to be involved (and are just notified that it's taking place).

David

[Dave Woodward]

Back to the point, I don't know if Graeme Bruce is still in the north east, but he does a great ERD course if you can find him

Dave

[JamesW]

Has any clubs ran the ERD?

Thanks

[Odin]

So it is still a "Coaching Scheme" event.
Why is it not possible for a branch with an ERD instructor to just run an "In-House" event, and not have the hassle of going through the Coaching scheme, filling in expenses forms etc...?

[Adrian Kelland]

So it is still a "Coaching Scheme" event.
Why is it not possible for a branch with an ERD instructor to just run an "In-House" event, and not have the hassle of going through the Coaching scheme, filling in expenses forms etc...?
Well you don't have to claim expenses. As one of the potential students, I'd rather you didn't :D :D

[JamesW]

I would love to run a Divers First Aid Course, because I can't it looks like it has to be the EFR with AED and if we have time the o2 part as well.
LOL :D

James

EFR Instructor.
HSE First Aid at Work Trainer & Assessor.
RYA First Aid Instructor.
SAA Diver First Aid Instructor.
SDI/TDI CPROX.
Miltary First Aid Instructor.
Class 1 Miltary Medic.
EMT.
IHMP Instructor Trainer.
AED & o2 Instructor.
City & Guilds 7302.

PS

Anyone wants a First Aid Course?????????

[David Walker]

I would love to run a Divers First Aid Course, because I can't it looks like it has to be the EFR with AED and if we have time the o2 part as well.

But just think, if you go and observe a BSAC First Aid course you'll get the benefit of the vast experience of someone who's potentially attended it once, assisted once, and this is their third or fourth ever course! Or maybe if you're really lucky you'll get to assist someone who has taught it once a year for the last 20 years! :rolleyes:

David

[JamesW]

But just think, if you go and observe a BSAC First Aid course you'll get the benefit of the vast experience of someone who's potentially attended it once, assisted once, and this is their third or fourth ever course! Or maybe if you're really lucky you'll get to assist someone who has taught it once a year for the last 20 years! :rolleyes:

David

Oh Yes

When I was a lad in 1932 0r was it 1832

The picture is of my instructor trainer marking the exam slate.

[Odin]

When did you take that photo of me??
p.s I've shaved off the moustace and given up the pipe... still got a flat cap though

[Odin]

Well you don't have to claim expenses. As one of the potential students, I'd rather you didn't :D :D
trust me.. the expenses will be cheaper than my bar bill.... :p