Correct technique for teaching in water AV/RB

[one_tc]

What is the current technique for teaching in water Rescue Breathing (formerly AV)?

Should the students actually make a seal?
If so are there any concerns regarding transfer of cold sores? As far as I'm aware coldsores are uncureable, and I know I'd be a tad upset if I caught them from a course.

:p

Tim

[Adrian Kelland]

What is the current technique for teaching in water Rescue Breathing (formerly AV)?

Should the students actually make a seal?
If so are there any concerns regarding transfer of cold sores? As far as I'm aware coldsores are uncureable, and I know I'd be a tad upset if I caught them from a course.

:p

Tim
Tim,

I would use this (http://www.bsac.org/branchmanage/421training.shtml#contact) as a basis for allowing anyone with concerns of this type to be allowed to show adequate technique in regard to AV.

Not as good as making a seal while on the water though.

Adrian

[Paul Beal]

What is the current technique for teaching in water Rescue Breathing (formerly AV)?

Should the students actually make a seal?
If so are there any concerns regarding transfer of cold sores? As far as I'm aware coldsores are uncureable, and I know I'd be a tad upset if I caught them from a course.

:p

Tim

The :p tells me this post is not as serious as it could be.

I will generally tell my students [1] that they are going to be making a seal on the nose and ask them if they have a problem with it. I have 2 ways of getting round making a seal. The first is to leave the mask on (simulate its removal) and the second is to make contact with the forehead. That said, I have only ever had a couple of people who are not happy with the general concept although I have purposely enforced a different approach when people have colds or a coldsore.

Paul

[1] this includes anyone from SD trainee up to IFC students, OWIC students and PIE candidates.

[one_tc]

I am serious - I just thought it looked like a coldsore

Tim

[William van Niekerk]

As far as I'm aware coldsores are uncureable, and I know I'd be a tad upset if I caught them from a course.

Cold sores are caused by the virus Herpes simplex type I (only subtly different from type II, "genital" Herpes, although both viruses can cause peri-oral as well as peri-anal/genital disease). Yes, the condition is incurable (although one can treat it with antiviral preparations when sores appear, in order to alleviate symptoms and shorten the duration of the outbreak). Take note that one can be contageous in the prodromal phase before showing any symptoms or signs of an "outbreak".

I would be INCREDIBLY P***ed off if someone gave me Herpes on a SCUBA diving course!:mad:

Regards
William

[Nick Argue]

What is the current technique for teaching in water Rescue Breathing (formerly AV)?

Should the students actually make a seal?
If so are there any concerns regarding transfer of cold sores? As far as I'm aware coldsores are uncureable, and I know I'd be a tad upset if I caught them from a course.

:p

Tim
Any one tried using the in water dummies? I saw one being used in Gildy earlier this year, kitted up and lying on a 6m platform. At least I think it was a dummy :D

I image they're quite expensive, but they would allow the student to really breath into an in water casualty and avoid anything contagious

[Tony Dwyer]

Any one tried using the in water dummies? I saw one being used in Gildy earlier this year, kitted up and lying on a 6m platform. At least I think it was a dummy :D

I image they're quite expensive, but they would allow the student to really breath into an in water casualty and avoid anything contagious

That may well have been our Basil. He's a great AV/CPR dummy and has a complete SCUBA set of his own. Just the job for in-water AV practice.
He's also pretty good for CBL's. If it all goes pear shaped, just let him go and he can rocket to the surface without copping a bend.

He wasn't cheap, but in my view he was worth every penny of the grant money we spent on him. :)

Tony
Basildon Sub-Aqua Club