BSAC Advanced Instructor Looking for a Job

[DIVERSI]

I am a BSAC Advanced instructire sick of sales (20 years soon to be takrn by greedy ex wife) looking to change carrer and make a living do ing what I love.

Any ideas how to teach in the UK (young son so cant just leave) and make a reasionable living would be very much appreciated.

Regards Simon

[TerryH]

Yep, spend some dosh and do a PADI IOC.

As a BSAC AI you can go on an IDC, but pay less as its classed as an IOC
(Instructor Orientation Course). You still need to do the IE, but without the
PADI ticket, chances of being employed are almost non-existent.

I'd also work on anything else that would help, like gas blending,
compressor ops etc. Name of the game these days isnt agency, but
agencies. You need more of them so the shop can sell more.

TerryH

[DIVERSI]

Thanks Terry

Any idea of the costs or where I could do the cross over?

Regards Simon

[TerryH]

Well cheapest is normally doing it abroad, but look at any standard IDC
venues and if any take your fancy, ask about the cost of an IOC. The books
etc. are the same price, as is the IE (Instructor Exam), but you can usually
get the IDC bit for half-price.

Cost wise you are looking at at least a grand, but might be able to work that
off as an intern.

The IOC isnt usually advertised or promoted because very few BSAC AI's do
it. Worth looking into it though.

HTH
TerryH

[Peter Baldwin]

Hi
I did mine at Gildenburgh Water some years ago. It took about a week of classroom lessons ,pool work and some open water work with a mixed group of people. On the exam day you have to do a theory test first,then a general fitness swim, then pool lesson , then a theory lesson (about 10-15mins) and then an open water lesson - That's if things haven't changed since . I stayed in a local B&B nearby as I couldn't bear to stay in one of the caravans. It cost about a thousand and you had to live on a poor diet for a week. The pass rate was high, due to a very competent Course Director. Hope this is useful,
Pete

[Rod Bateman]

The PADI route,

You are looking at about £1000 minimum whereever you do the course.
The 2 day PADI Instructor Exam and application is about £400 the required books about £300 and the IDC or IOC about £3-400. Most places charge the same for an IDC and an IOC as they are virtually the same course. In facty the IOC need more input. Where are you based because that depends on where I would recommend to do the course. If you are in the North (north of Watford Gap) then I would suggest Go Dive (http://www.godive.net) in Derby. If you are South of that then Diverse Scuba (http://www.diverse-scuba.co.uk) in Essex. The Course Directors at both centres are excellent and have a 100% pass rate.

You will also need to look at what else you need to be employable. EFR Instructor, Gas blender, compressor repair/service, Nitrox specialty, DUP, etc.

Best of luck in sorting a job.

[TerryH]

Most places charge the same for an IDC and an IOC as they are virtually the same course.

Not quite. The BIG difference is that the center knows that you have the
skill, you are after all already an Inst. So while the PADI elements do have to
be covered, the in-water teaching is more a question of syllabus/order.

I know that many IDC centers do foundation weeks for ill-prepared DM's,
something that couldnt ever (well hopefully) be applied on an IOC.

You can get it cheaper, just need to pick a center that knows where you are
coming from. So go for a BSAC/PADI IDC center and chances are the cost of
the course element will be halved.

Do have to shop around though.

TerryH

[Rod Bateman]

Terry,

I beg to differ,

There are actually more classroom sessions to do if you are a BSAC crossover rather than a PADI DM so therefore it takes longer to do. The in water teaching is the same who ever you are, nothing is different.

Rod

[TerryH]

Terry,

I beg to differ,

There are actually more classroom sessions to do if you are a BSAC crossover rather than a PADI DM so therefore it takes longer to do. The in water teaching is the same who ever you are, nothing is different.

Rod

Err nope. An IDC is an IDC. Same syllabus no matter what the entry rec.
Ok your BSAC guy may have to do more homework, but he doesnt get cut
any slack on the IDC over his DM mate, so no extra sessions.

Have the CD's manual here if you want chapter and verse BTW, but that's
probably a bit OTT for a BSAC fora.

T.

[Rod Bateman]

Err Nope an IDC is an IDC an IOC is different as people are crossing over from another organisation.

I think you will find that for an IOC you have to ALSO teach section 13 entitled 'How to teach the Recreational Dive Planner' which is not necessary for an IDC but is a requirement for people crossing over from another organisation. If you wanted to you could teach it on an IDC but I have yet to find it necessary.

Your turn .......... :)

Rod

[JamesW]

I looked into this yesterday it would cost me £1300 just the ie exam is £484.00 and you do the OWSI part which is 4 days then you have to pass that and do the IE within 12 months theres to many padi instructors and not a nuff jobs.
Happy Diving:) :)

[jeff scott]

Great..................!

Play Nicely now.......you naughty little scamps

[manxdiver]

Hi

I wouldn't be too worried about not being PADI instructor.....they are everywhere and seemingly prepared to work for next to nothing! (as are many BSAC instructors), i would spend your time working toward mixed gas instructor or the rebreather route. These along with other useful skills - servicing and compressor ops will all help with employability.

Steve

[Agnes Upton]

Hi Simon

Its the first time I see your advert so its probably too late now but if you ever decide to go abroad we are always looking for good BSAC Instructors.
We are also a PADI CDCentre so no problem crossing over to PADI if you decide to do so.

Best REgards
Agnes Upton
Chief Instructor
Maltaqua BSAC Cof E No.007 :cool:

[Matt-75]

Not to mention Malta is a really nice place, with brilliant diving and friendly maltese people.

Have been out there last year and am due to head out again in June for the annual club bash, and would recommend it to anyone looking for a chilled out place to enjoy themselves.

[DannyEdmunds]

You could also consider doing the RYA Instructor course.

Danny

[GaryC]

You could also consider doing the RYA Instructor course.

Danny

Got any information on that? i.e. what the route is.

[JamesW]

Got any information on that? i.e. what the route is.

You can only teach through a RYA RTC.
What part do you want to do have a word with Ian Fuller he was a BSAC NI he's a real nice bloke.

http://www.boatschool.co.uk/

Thanks
James