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I want to do some background reading around the latest thinking of decompression theory. Can anyone point me in the direction of some good references / web sites?
Thanks
Chris
Have a look at the Decompression Matrix by Bob Cole. This will give you a good grounding in decompression theory & good practice.
Gareth
David Walker
14-03-2006, 23:07
Just a little bit to get you started: ftp://decompression.org/pub/ ;)
David
Chris Cherrington
15-03-2006, 00:15
Chris
Have a look at the Decompression Matrix by Bob Cole. This will give you a good grounding in decompression theory & good practice.
Gareth
I like this book too. However, if you want the latest up-to-the-minute stuff the web is the best place and some of the techie forums. But its nerd food, not for the faint hearted... :D
Chris
Chris
I have to agree with you that if you want up to date stuff you are unlikely to find it in a book.
Your option are restricted to published academic papers - which at least have some credability.
Or, stuff on the internet, that accuracy of which can be a bit dubious!
As I originally stated The Decompression Matrix, should give you a good grounding in decompression theory in a format that is understandable to most - if I understand it it got to be well written!
However, it doesn't cover the new theories. RGBM, Deep Stops, WKPP, VPM etc. Most of which unfortunately you can only get off the internet
Gareth
Paul Oliver
15-03-2006, 01:27
Blimey i was just about to buy that but if its lacking RGBM and Deep Stop's then maybe not. :(
I thought it was only published a couple of years ago, surly Deep Stops have been around longer than that? i've been doing them longer than that :)
It' still worth buying a copy of Bob's book. It does cover a lot of material, so although there may be gaps, its gives you a very strong basis to build on. Brett Gilliam reviewed this book and said "overall I found the book to be outstanding. The material is thorough, well presented and focused. I like the use of so many photos, graphs and charts. I don't think I have seen a book that so well covers the topic since Lippman's "Deeper into Diving" back in 1991".
I've also got in my bookcase Bruce R Wienke and his Basic Decompression Theory and Application book. This is a major geek book, and RGBM's are discussed.
As with pretty much everything in life, you find that there is no one book that gives you the complete answer to everything. But a collection of books help. Out of the two above, I would definately buy Bob's book because it is easy to read and does fill in gaps you didn't know you had. Then when you do move onto the geek books and papers, you have some understanding to build on.
John Williams
15-03-2006, 09:23
As with pretty much everything in life, you find that there is no one book that gives you the complete answer to everything. .
The Karma Sutra???
(well...it's something to do on those long stops!)
John:D
The Karma Sutra???
(well...it's something to do on those long stops!)
John:D
Brings a whole new meaning to Deep Stops!!!!!!!! :)
Chris Cherrington
15-03-2006, 09:32
Blimey i was just about to buy that but if its lacking RGBM and Deep Stop's then maybe not. :(
I thought it was only published a couple of years ago, surly Deep Stops have been around longer than that? i've been doing them longer than that :)
Deep stop stuff has been around for years. Henessey called them "de-fizzing" stops and they were known about by the Navy in the 60s IIRC.
The book is still well worth buying though. What theories are there about deep stops that "should" be in there? Maybe a paragraph or a soundbite? The same is true of the RGBM stuff. Its all about bubble dynamics. Not real world diving.
J-P Imbert's stuff on deep stops is on the BSAC web server if you want to read up on it. Weinke is (or was) a prolific poster on SB and a trawl of that will cover a lot of RGBM.
It really depends on what you want to get out of the reading. Like I say the latest stuff really is geek food. Paul, of all folks you have never struck me as a geek (I hope you take that as the compliment it is intended :p)
Chris
(A bit geeky...)
John Williams
15-03-2006, 14:43
Brings a whole new meaning to Deep Stops!!!!!!!! :)
:eek:
I was going to say something like that...but then I decided I was too much of a gentleman!
John:o
I want to do some background reading around the latest thinking of decompression theory. Can anyone point me in the direction of some good references / web sites?
Lippmann's "Deeper into Diving" is a good place to start, albeit the info in there is now a little dated.
Beware, though, that he gets the BSAC '88s completely wrong. Fundamentally.
Vic.
David Walker
15-03-2006, 16:05
our option are restricted to published academic papers - which at least have some credability.
Or, stuff on the internet, that accuracy of which can be a bit dubious!
The website I put above seems to be a good source of info - its got papers by a lot of different people who've done research into deco, many of them working for major organisations so hopefully gives it a bit of credibility.
I printed them all out just before Christmas, but haven't quite got round to reading them all yet (there are a LOT there), but the ones i've read are certainly interesting to learn about how deco works, even if I don't fully understand the science behind it. The way I dive at the minute though i'll always stay within what my Vyper tells me, even if I plan the dive some other way and gives me shorter deco, so for example although i've tried various forms of deep stops they've always been in addition to, rather than instead of, deco at 6m.
David
The way I dive at the minute though i'll always stay within what my Vyper tells me, even if I plan the dive some other way and gives me shorter deco, so for example although i've tried various forms of deep stops they've always been in addition to, rather than instead of, deco at 6m.
David
Never hurts to be a little bit conservative!
When I use a new deco program, I spend some time comparing profiles with those I have used in the past. I think its advisable to use some sort of reference to determine how agressive the new software / theory is, & then decide if I want to be a crash test dummy after all!
My main point was just be a little carefull about whats on the internet. It's not all true you know!:)
Gareth
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