Aladin tec 2g computer

[jeremy gainsford]

I am still looking for a good reliable 2 mix no frills computer and have come across the Aladdin 2g by Uwatec.

This looks ideal at around £220 and comes recommended by my dive shop (The Apeks Quantum I was after is critisied for ongoing reliability issues)

has anyone got experince of the 2g as i would be interested in your comments. Does it have a deep stop facility?

[Richard Mason]

I am still looking for a good reliable 2 mix no frills computer and have come across the Aladdin 2g by Uwatec.

This looks ideal at around £220 and comes recommended by my dive shop (The Apeks Quantum I was after is critisied for ongoing reliability issues)

has anyone got experince of the 2g as i would be interested in your comments. Does it have a deep stop facility?

I have one and no, I don't believe it does the deep stop thing.

[Richard Whitcombe]

Vyper Air, Vytec or similar will do what you want. Regarding deep stops though, just put them in yourself using pyle stops or whatever method you choose. The computers that "do" deep stops just put those in anyway - they don't fact as part of the deco model so there's no real advantage to having a deep stop computer.

[Richard Mason]

Vyper Air, Vytec or similar will do what you want. Regarding deep stops though, just put them in yourself using pyle stops or whatever method you choose. The computers that "do" deep stops just put those in anyway - they don't fact as part of the deco model so there's no real advantage to having a deep stop computer.

Personally, I reckon that if you are diving with a particular computer, and in particular if you are using it to run your deco, then you do what it suggests or else risk invalidating whatever model it's using.

Personally, I do't as yet do regular deco diving; most of what I do is triangular profile, starting in the 35-40m range with a steady ascent to around 15-20m where I'll stooge around for a while for the purposes of the dive, so I guess, in a way that's an unintentional deep stop anyway but I'd be pretty certain that if I had gone into deco as defined by the computer, then hanging around for an extra minute or two at 20 odd metres would simply extend the deco obligation already calculated, so I wouldn't do it.

I think if you want to use a computer to run your deco and you want to do deep stops, then use a computer which has this feature; anything else is simply using your body for a science experiment.

[PeteM]

Personally, I reckon that if you are diving with a particular computer, and in particular if you are using it to run your deco, then you do what it suggests or else risk invalidating whatever model it's using.

Putting in Pyle stops does follow the computer model, in fact it has no practical difference to your triangle dives with the addition of a longer stop at the bottom in that it is a non direct ascent.

When you are doing an intermediate stop you may well be in a situation where one (slow) compartment is still on gassing whilst others are off gassing but that is not a problem as when you get to your shallow stops you will follow the computer until it thinks all compartments are clear.

[Garf]

Vyper Air, Vytec or similar will do what you want. Regarding deep stops though, just put them in yourself using pyle stops or whatever method you choose. The computers that "do" deep stops just put those in anyway - they don't fact as part of the deco model so there's no real advantage to having a deep stop computer.

Unless of course you are running a computer that is using a bubble model, in which case the deep stops are indeed part of the decompression model. Or, in fact a computer running gradient factors, where again they are indeed part of the decompression model.

[rongoodman]

The tec 2G has user adjustable "microbubble levels" which add deeper stops, depending on the level of conservatism the user adds.

[PeteM]

The tec 2G has user adjustable "microbubble levels" which add deeper stops, depending on the level of conservatism the user adds.

I think that is a microbubble fudge the same as the Suunto's

[Richard Whitcombe]

I think that is a microbubble fudge the same as the Suunto's

It is in practice. None of the uwatec in that range or the suuntos in that range (ie the rec computers) do anything with deep stops other than just fudging in something similar to pyle stops. None of them count it as part of the decompression/ascent.

[HelmGuy]

I have just got a Uwatec 2g computer too and was wondering the same thing. I'd prefer to have the computer show me the minimum deco I need to do to get me out of the water and then I can pad the times if everything goes to plan and I have the gas. So I guess I'm best to leave the computer on the default settings and then do a manual plan with deep stops?

Which brings up another question. What software can I use to create dive plans that will most closely match the uwatec computer?