Indies

[Kris2]

At the risk of starting the looping debate again, i have a genuine question.
I dive independant twins most of the time. As such i have long hose on both tanks so i can donate from either .never really fancied looping , so stow the hoses bungied to either tank.
i personally think there should be some choice in methods , but how would the guys that like to hog loop deal with indies? (2 loops round the neck) or (one round the neck and the other bungied.)
No doubt one answer would be - " don,t use indies then, everyone should be manifolded"
Curious what methods other indies users have.

[Rich Walker]

Kris,

You can't really loop both of them. The advantage of the "hog loop" is that it deploys very cleanly and doesn't snag anywhere. If you try to wrap 2 long hoses, at least one of them will snag when you need to deploy it.

Gas sharing with independents is tricky, especially if you are close to the limits of your gas management. You need to keep at least enough gas in one cylinder to allow your buddy to ascend on your gas, so this should the one you donate. Personally, I'd keep the long hose on that cylinder, and wrap it. Breathe it when you are on that cylinder, and clip/stow it somewhere convenient and accessible when you are using the other cylinder.

Rich

[DarrenA]

I stowed mine in a bungee on the cylinder (single long hose on the left at the time).

Theory was that you either got the one from my mouth or if I was on the short one at the time (I switched every 5 mins) then you were given the long hose from where it was clipped off on my harness.

Didnt like it tbh. Feel much happier on manifold with one long in my mouth as there is one system for donate/take so no confusion or changing.

Each to their own though.

[barrygoss]

I'll step in here :-)

As a hog looper for the past ten years or so with twin 12's and KISS kit.

Guess what? I dont mind. your kit is your kit. you want to dive indies? I'm cool with that. Two long hoses? thank you for your consideration :-)

Would I discuss a manifold with you? yes maybe on our third or fourth dive merely because I'd want to be in roughly the same kit and i'd be looking out for you as a regular buddy, why? because I can list the times when a manifold would have helped me over indies (and I spent 9 months diving indie 15's on every dive, inculding a fantastic 4.8m river dive)

Other than that. You dive what you want. I'll dve what I want.

BSAC through and through

(well used to be)

B
:-)

[neil_richardson]

Dived Indies for years, still do but they're now side mounted ;-)

Excluding which i stilll dive manifolded with long hose etc..

On my old indie setup i used to run a 2m long hose from my right pillar and a 1.5m from my left. The left however looped under my arm, and then dog legged in. Worked well,, was nice and neat, and allowed me 2 x long'ish hoses ;-)

N

[Steve in Sharm]

I used to dive indies regularly, and still do occassionally.

My method was a short hose off of my right post, another short hose off of my left for me, plus a bungeed long hose as well. Worked very well.

HTH

steve

[ChristianG]

On my old indie setup i used to run a 2m long hose from my right pillar and a 1.5m from my left. The left however looped under my arm, and then dog legged in. Worked well,, was nice and neat, and allowed me 2 x long'ish hoses ;-)
My set up is somewhat like yours.

The left shoulder Indie has an octopus length hose which goes underarm to a break-away (if necessary) clip on the left shoulder strap. The DV on that hose is black.

The right shoulder Indie has a 2.1 metre Hog rigged long hose with a fluoro yellow DV.

Both regs are Oceanic Omega IIs which are omni-directional, mostly because I can get into some pretty weird positions u/w to get that pic so having to kink the hose is not a problem - you just take (oops) the DV and breathe, never mind where/which way up you are.

[Kris2]

Cheers for the input, i use 2m miflex on both sides. r side stowed at side of tank in wing pocket. left with left feed reg bungied to tank.never had problems deploying up to now and breath them down equally always reserving enough for buddy from the planned depth.