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garethwoodruff
30-11-2009, 11:09
Well, I have just come back from an excellent weekend diving the sound of mull , staying in Oban and doing the usual wrecks.

One of my club had a DSMB which is the buddy type, red on one side and yellow on the other. Confused the hell out of me. first time I spotted it appear it was facing the yelow side, turned round for a few seconds and next it was the red size, so I was looking at where the yellow one had gone :eek: I thought there were 2 x DSMB's in the water !!

Very confusing, can you please stick to red / orange DSMB's for normal ascent's :)

Edward
30-11-2009, 11:21
Well, I have just come back from an excellent weekend diving the sound of mull , staying in Oban and doing the usual wrecks.

One of my club had a DSMB which is the buddy type, red on one side and yellow on the other. Confused the hell out of me. first time I spotted it appear it was facing the yelow side, turned round for a few seconds and next it was the red size, so I was looking at where the yellow one had gone :eek: I thought there were 2 x DSMB's in the water !!

Very confusing, can you please stick to red / orange DSMB's for normal ascent's :)
Hi Gareth,

Sympathise, and it would be useful if individuals would let others know what colour(s) their DSMB was before they enter the water.

Regards

Edward

Fiona
30-11-2009, 11:49
Very confusing, can you please stick to red / orange DSMB's for normal ascent's :)

I hope you told him to get rid :)

GaryC
30-11-2009, 13:05
Surely it is only confusing if you have agreed a procedure with the divers before hand. Otherwise most people are going to ignore even a yellow DSMB. Well until such times that EVERYONE knows what the different colours mean.

Pesonally I like folk to write their names on them too. Figuring out who is who can be a complete pain in somewhere like the Farne Islands come a Bank Holiday dive when all the boats are trying to drop divers in at Blue Caps.

Gary

Fiona
30-11-2009, 13:47
Pesonally I like folk to write their names on them too. Figuring out who is who can be a complete pain
Gary

Or better still get the solas name labels from Divesigns (http://www.divesigns.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=11)

garethwoodruff
30-11-2009, 13:48
Surely it is only confusing if you have agreed a procedure with the divers before hand. Otherwise most people are going to ignore even a yellow DSMB. Well until such times that EVERYONE knows what the different colours mean.

Pesonally I like folk to write their names on them too. Figuring out who is who can be a complete pain in somewhere like the Farne Islands come a Bank Holiday dive when all the boats are trying to drop divers in at Blue Caps.

Gary

Gary,

Please read what I posted. It was the fact that it looked like 2 x DSMB's , one side red, the other yellow, not the fact that it was either yellow or red in terms of technical diving and asking for more gas etc...

Gareth.

Gordon
30-11-2009, 13:53
Gary,

Please read what I posted. It was the fact that it looked like 2 x DSMB's , one side red, the other yellow, not the fact that it was either yellow or red in terms of technical diving and asking for more gas etc...

Gareth.

You're no fun - getting in the way of a good rant like that :rolleyes:

garethwoodruff
30-11-2009, 14:07
You're no fun - getting in the way of a good rant like that :rolleyes:

;) Good point.

All yellow DSMB's should only be able to be purchased by suitably qualified technical divers and possesion of one if you are not at least a sports mixed gas qualification should be a criminal offence.

That ok? :D

allen
30-11-2009, 14:30
;) Good point.

All yellow DSMB's should only be able to be purchased by suitably qualified technical divers and possesion of one if you are not at least a sports mixed gas qualification should be a criminal offence.

That ok? :D
Does the shade of yellow affect the severity of the sentence???

GaryC
30-11-2009, 14:39
;) Good point.

All yellow DSMB's should only be able to be purchased by suitably qualified technical divers and possesion of one if you are not at least a sports mixed gas qualification should be a criminal offence.

That ok? :D


Very confusing, can you please stick to red / orange DSMB's for normal ascent's



Well! I think you are totally out of oooooooK I agree ban the use of Red & Yellow DSMB and Yellow ones for that matter.;)

I have seen the issue where a dual colour DSMB looks like two. It has confused me in the past. Especially when there are 20 odd other DSMB in the area. When they are labelled with the Divers name that somewhat reduces their ability to confuse.

However some people dont actually write their names on very well and you have to drive the RIB over the top of another dive party to see it. Fiona's link to the letter site seems like a good idea to me.

Gary

Edward
30-11-2009, 15:06
;) Good point.

All yellow DSMB's should only be able to be purchased by suitably qualified technical divers and possesion of one if you are not at least a sports mixed gas qualification should be a criminal offence.

That ok? :D
But I bought mine before the term 'technical' was used, and its yellow (well on a good day), but it could be amber.

Edward

GaryC
30-11-2009, 15:15
But I bought mine before the term 'technical' was used, and its yellow (well on a good day), but it could be amber.

Edward

You had better be careful you don't get hit on the head with a descending bottle!!!

Cathy B
30-11-2009, 17:07
I'm guilty of having a red/yellow DSMB. I never really considered it a big deal as our club doesn't do anything close to techie diving, and everyone in the club knows I have one so there's no confusion with regards to 'two' DSMBs.

I inherited it from my parents - if anyone wants to buy a poor student a 'proper' red DSMB, then by all means go ahead. Otherwise, I'm sticking with my nice cheap method of using this one till it falls apart! ;)

Gordon
30-11-2009, 17:47
...I'm sticking with my nice cheap method of using this one till it falls apart! ;)

And when it falls apart - aquasure :cool:

Kris2
30-11-2009, 18:19
Valid points made "G". The two colour bags should be banned.If used over a site with more than one boat you can,t ensure that all divers are aware of which signal to use, so could lead to confusion.

Kris2
30-11-2009, 18:35
consider myself far from tecky but still always carry a yellow bag just in-case.they don,t cost a fortune and also give you extra rendundant bouyancy.

Nigel Hewitt
30-11-2009, 19:49
I have an orange/red crack bottle inflate blob that hangs from my hip with a 100m reel.

Then there is a red/orange manual inflate on a 20m spool in my pocket. That's the backup.

Then there is a yellow with just a clip so it can slide up the line of one of the others.

THEN there is a dirty great pink 'space hopper' mooring bouy with 10 meters of line and a 12L drop tank of 50% on it because the yellow is precious little use without it.

garethwoodruff
30-11-2009, 21:58
I'm guilty of having a red/yellow DSMB. I never really considered it a big deal as our club doesn't do anything close to techie diving, and everyone in the club knows I have one so there's no confusion with regards to 'two' DSMBs.

I inherited it from my parents - if anyone wants to buy a poor student a 'proper' red DSMB, then by all means go ahead. Otherwise, I'm sticking with my nice cheap method of using this one till it falls apart! ;)

Sounds cool, just tell the skipper thats what you have before you go diving, assuming as a poor student you can afford the odd hardboat dive :p

northern_diver
01-12-2009, 01:12
Does the shade of yellow affect the severity of the sentence???

Is that the genius of the law degree i hear ;)

Sounds cool, just tell the skipper thats what you have before you go diving, assuming as a poor student you can afford the odd hardboat dive

haha you should talk to the guy that organised my last dive trip, very good value, great trip;) :)

until some offical standards, confirm and note with skipper/DM's etc sounds sensible.

John ' i dont care what colour they use, there was definately another dive team there on that wreck' Armstrong;)

Woz
01-12-2009, 11:35
The good thing about standards is that there are so many of them.

Bag colour matters not a jot unless you have arranged something previously and have the kit to do it with. More recently the orange-ok, yellow-oh poo standard is becoming the norm but only if you sort it out first.

jorawley
01-12-2009, 16:14
just be thankful your divers use dsmb's...

the amount of boats i've been on this year with random groups, various clubs etc etc and not every diver carries one or knows how to use one.

particularly memorable was quite choppy conditions, drift dive, all 3 divers carried a dsmb, not one of them deployed one... only when they were on the surface and the charter boat didnt pick them up immediately (cause the skipper couldnt see them) did they deploy one and then complain they had been waiting a few mins.