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bootneck
07-09-2009, 16:15
I am looking around to purchase an 02 kit for the club, I have looked at all the marinox and bigger type Sabre sets, but I am getting more and more drawn into making up a 02 kits using a 10l/12l 02 clean dive cylinder and pin index adaptor, 02 first stage with two take off, with constant flow masks.. Has any one had any experience of this sort of set up please and thoughts would be appreciated. I found this unit from OMS which looks to fit the need.http://www.omsdive-uk.com/gas_sys.html#OXREG

I also have the opportunity to get automatic defibrillator training locally have any clubs invested in a unit, training and was it worth while.

Gareth
07-09-2009, 16:35
I am looking around to purchase an 02 kit for the club, I have looked at all the marinox and bigger type Sabre sets, but I am getting more and more drawn into making up a 02 kits using a 10l/12l 02 clean dive cylinder and pin index adaptor, 02 first stage with two take off, with constant flow masks.. Has any one had any experience of this sort of set up please and thoughts would be appreciated.

I also have the opportunity to get automatic defibrillator training locally have any clubs invested in a unit, training and was it worth while.

We have three O2 kits in the branch, an old SOS set that we will probably retire (because of servicing costs). A marinox, & the new set we have aquired (the make of which I am not certain about) to replace the SOS.

We have adapters in the O2 sets:-

1. O2 two pin to DIN
2. O2 two pin to BSP Bullnose (J cylinder)

The theory being that if we are out diving we can use the O2 set with the standard D(?) or E(?) cylinder, if these expire then we can use a diving cylinder with the next richest O2, or if on a liveaboard with J cylinders, we can use the J cylinder (mind you evacuating the casualty with the J may prove problomatic:D ).

Basically what you are proposing is what we kind of have. The big advantage of the O2 kits is that we can leave them set up & ready when diving, in their protective cases. If we where using Diving cylinders then I suspect they would recieve more abuse, with out a protective case.

Gareth
(edit - spelling mistakes)

Steve Walsh
08-09-2009, 14:39
Paging Woz

Woz
08-09-2009, 16:05
Paging WozHello?

O2 kit dead easy to set up. Old cylinder (I use an old ally 10 that's horrible to dive with) and a reg that's suitable for O2 use. Then you need something to plug into a BC hose to regulate the flow. RescuEan do a commercial thingy or there are "others" available knocked up from industrial parts, apparently, from somewhere. Ahem.

I've used O2 kits in anger a few times and the best thing to use is a proper bag mask (if you are not on a RIB). Regs are tiring and uncomfortable to suck on for any length of time. Commercial O2 kits (Marinox etc) are neat but have a (very) limited capacity and once you've run out, you're screwed as there is no way to get any O2 (or rich nitrox mix) through into the bag mask as the 1st stage is a pin index, not scuba fitting.

Gareth
08-09-2009, 16:24
...........you're screwed as there is no way to get any O2 (or rich nitrox mix) through into the bag mask as the 1st stage is a pin index, not scuba fitting.

Woz

Not quite, see my previous post, 2 pin index adapters are readily available, both for DIN & Bullnose.

Gareth

bootneck
08-09-2009, 16:31
I have most of the masks ect, as I have a little sabre 02 unit for personal use, but after read lots of treads over the years wanted something with a decent capacity as we are a little of the beaten track. Right now to track down an ally 10 , thanks all

bootneck
08-09-2009, 16:55
I have most of the masks ect, as I have a little sabre 02 unit for personal use, but after read lots of treads over the years wanted something with a decent capacity as we are a little of the beaten track. Right now to track down an ally 10 , thanks all

Woz
08-09-2009, 17:01
Woz

Not quite, see my previous post, 2 pin index adapters are readily available, both for DIN & Bullnose.

GarethVery true. Just not in our O2 kit!

STEVE MC
08-09-2009, 19:07
Hi,
Our club do a lot of off shore diving 20-25 mile out in Liverpool Bay so we came to the conclusion that a couple of 'D' or 'E' clinders wouldn't be sufficient to get us back to shore if someone got bent.
We purchased an O2 clean 12 L dumpy cylinder and the appropriate 2 pin adaptor which along with the standard O2 kit gives us plenty of options if someone (touch wood it doesn't happen) gets a bend. The cylinder lives in the bottle rack with the O2 kit sat on top in it weatherproof housing.
Works for us :-)
Steve