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Steve Walker

15-05-2003, 12:50

Trevor M

15-05-2003, 13:50

Adrian Kelland

15-05-2003, 14:08

Never been there either. I started in 1987. We had a local lake for shallow work, and Gildenburgh was closer.

Now I am in the SW, the sea is closer and warmer.

Adrian

Paul Oliver

18-05-2003, 18:47

Hi Steve

Me nether, and don't plan to eather. I'll stick to salt water, althogh we do our training at Larkfield Lakes outside Maidstone.

Did a course once when we were due to go there but it got changed to Wreysbury.

Hey, Matt just accused me of trying to wind him up about Lobsters and Portholes on YD, can you beleve that?

Regards

Paul

fionab

25-05-2003, 13:50

As Stoney Cove seems to be arguably the 'spiritual home' for British divers, purely out of curiosity, how many here _haven't_ been to Stoney Cove? I started diving in 1997 and never been there yet.
Regards

Started diving in 1994 used to go there a lot as trainee, but you then had to get up at the crack of dawn just to get in the carpark. Haven't been since new years eve 1998 and have no plans to go back. Why dive in a quarry when there is so much sea to dive in.

Colin Barber

28-05-2003, 13:35

As Stoney Cove seems to be arguably the 'spiritual home' for British divers, purely out of curiosity, how many here _haven't_ been to Stoney Cove? I started diving in 1997 and never been there yet.
Regards

Don't be too disappointed!

Personally, I avoid the place. In six years I've only had to go there twice for drills during the winter. The sea would have to freeze for me to go there for pleasure. Thinking about, it Stony would then be frozen too so no sweat.

Colin

Steve Walker

28-05-2003, 15:03

Well, that's settled, I'll keep my log book a Stoney-free zone
Cheers

Adrian Kelland

28-05-2003, 15:30

Well, that's settled, I'll keep my log book a Stoney-free zone
Cheers

Thats how I intend to keep mine ;-)

Adrian

Mike Halligan

28-05-2003, 18:08

I must admit to having been there once as a trainee (Nuremberg defence), once voluntarily (ignorant & desperate) and once as an Instructor (which nearly put an end to my instructing).

The last of these was 26/04/98. How long before the statute of limitations cuts in?

I recognise that despite a firm purpose of amendment, I will never be able to join the exalted, and am inconsolable.

Mike :-)

Paul Oliver

28-05-2003, 22:38

And mine - try Dover Steve and get a real dive location in your log book.

Regards

Paul

Paul Oliver

28-05-2003, 22:44

Steve

Mike has bought out some good defences, now if we listen to Mattbin too much will we get the Stockholm Syndrome and end up going there?

Regards

Paul

Steve Walker

29-05-2003, 10:41

Steve

Mike has bought out some good defences, now if we listen to Mattbin too much will we get the Stockholm Syndrome and end up going there?

Regards

Paul

Don't forget Lou & Caroline too, they know all the bearings off by heart apprently, better call those anti-brainwashing people ! ;)
Cheers
Steve

Colin Barber

29-05-2003, 14:34

LOL

Well I'm stunned and amazed!

Given the congested state of the car parks at Stoney on most days even at 'sparrows' or earlier (I read about it in the mags), where are all of the divers that use the place?

Not reading this forum obviously!

Maybe the're with the 'other' lot?

Colin

Mark Emery

29-05-2003, 14:50

Well, I go there quite often to do DIR skills practice dives. Stoney is excellent for that. I would be very bored of the place if all I ever did was dive the Stanegarth and the hydro box etc. I never do 'sight seeing' dives there any more as they are just a waste of valuable practice time. Hark at me ;)

Regards,

Mark.

LOL

Well I'm stunned and amazed!

Given the congested state of the car parks at Stoney on most days even at 'sparrows' or earlier (I read about it in the mags), where are all of the divers that use the place?

Not reading this forum obviously!

Maybe the're with the 'other' lot?

Colin

TerryH

29-05-2003, 16:14

Errr, wouldnt you have actully had to have dived it at least
once before either slagging it off or making any sort of
comparison? I suppose the thousands of divers who do dive
Stoney couldnt give a rats a** anyway.

TerryH
(Who now uses Vobster for training instead as it's closer).

Howard Mason

29-05-2003, 19:10

I think Stoneys great for drills or trying new gear out, especially when its blowing a gale eslewhere . Once met a woman who had done 100 or so dives , and all in Stoney , she'd even spent ?2000.00 on a video system to record it for later , so it does have its fans.

ray carlisle

29-05-2003, 23:13

Seems to me that there is a lot of snobbery amongst this thread.Living by the sea I know that it is not always possible to dive in it. but like Guildy whether the viz is good or not you can get a dive and do whatever practice you want in relative safety.
So all you snobs out there please knock it off.

Paul Oliver

29-05-2003, 23:32

So all you snobs out there please knock it off.

Hey,

Steve will have started it as a laugh, and i suspect most will treat it as such, that is why i have ignored TerryH. I dive what is a far worse lake at Larkfield to get training done, and will put my head above the parapit and admit to more Lake dives than sea dives this year, (cannot beleve i have said let alone done that).

Please treat this thread in the manner i am sure Steve was intending when he started it.

Now if you want to wind Steve up complain about the lack of Lobsters to catch at Stoney.

Regards

Paul

TerryH

30-05-2003, 00:46

Steve will have started it as a laugh, and i suspect most will treat it as such, that is why i have ignored TerryH. I dive what is a far worse lake at Larkfield to get training done, and will put my head above the parapit and admit to more Lake dives than sea dives this year, (cannot beleve i have said let alone done that).

Please treat this thread in the manner i am sure Steve was intending when he started it.

Now if you want to wind Steve up complain about the lack of Lobsters to catch at Stoney.

Oh come on Paul, Steve may have started it as a genuine courious enquiry, but some of the responses were certainly not
in the same vein.

TerryH

Steve Walker

30-05-2003, 11:37

Bit of both really, 1) a modicum of genuine curiosity after someone said that my not having been there must be some kind of a record, and 2) just for a bit of (IMO much-needed) levity, one of the things with the these forums is that sometimes folk get too too serious by half - as one of my regular buddies regularly says "Remember - it's meant to be fun!"

Incidentally, my somewhat anti-stoney perspective is down to the fact that, long ago, in a club far far away, as a Novice I diver I was told that some folk get to AD without ever having dived anywhere else, which I thought was tragic. Does that make me a snob ? Possibly, in some peoples opinions, or maybe they don't recognise good-natured mickey-taking as an acceptable sense of humour?

Chee-az
Steve

TerryH

30-05-2003, 13:02

Incidentally, my somewhat anti-stoney perspective is down to the fact that, long ago, in a club far far away, as a Novice I diver I was told that some folk get to AD without ever having dived anywhere else, which I thought was tragic. Does that make me a snob ? Possibly, in some peoples opinions, or maybe they don't recognise good-natured mickey-taking as an acceptable sense of humour?

Trouble is Steve that it can be difficult to tell if you are
taking the mick!!!!!!

How is a Stoney trained AD any different to a warm water AD?
Of all divers wouldnt he be the absolute best at Stoney.
He is unique in having all that site experience.

He wouild be absolutely c**p as soon as you put him in the
sea, but should be ok at Dosthill, Gildenburgh, NDC & Vobster
etc.

All diver & Instructor grades are relative to where they
origianally dived and were taught. They only become muppets
when you take them out of this enviroment.

TerryH

PeteM

30-05-2003, 13:18

All diver & Instructor grades are relative to where they
origianally dived and were taught. They only become muppets
when you take them out of this enviroment.

I've seen plenty of Kermit impressions in the environment people were taught

Steve Walker

30-05-2003, 15:06

:=All diver & Instructor grades are relative to where they
:=origianally dived and were taught. They only become muppets
:=when you take them out of this enviroment.

I've seen plenty of Kermit impressions in the environment people were taught

What I was thinking, but perhaps not clearly elucidating, was that IMO to be an "Advanced Diver" should actually mean just that - your overall skills and experiences should be greater than the norm. To be a 'worthwhile' AD _demands_ that your experience covers as wide a variety of environments as possible: fresh water, brine, cold and warm water, shore and boats, NDL & Deco dives etc etc. If you never dive anywhere other than your local quarry, have you really developed the broadest skillbase within your grasp? I would say not.

Also a skilled cold-water trimix carrying wreck & deco AD can still look like a Jim Henson creation if they can't manage to avoid breaking off bits of coral whilst pootling at 6m in the Red Sea. Needless to say a warm-water only AD who has never dived an inland site in February has probably got a far steeper learning curve to overcome.
All of course IMVHO ;)
Chee-az
Steve

TerryH

30-05-2003, 15:53

I've seen plenty of Kermit impressions in the environment people were taught

Nah, Kermit's way to good. More like gonzo.

TerryH

Paul Oliver

31-05-2003, 01:22

Terry

Down to perspectives, i read the thread as i beleve Steve intended and i feel many followed on in that vein, if you disagree why am i not supprised. After all you have asked questions in the past and then slated people for not reading the question correctly when they have not interperited what you were after correctly.

Kind of attitude that can P people off very quickly.

But thats only my opinion and i am not realy interested in yours.

Regards

Paul

howard t

01-06-2003, 23:56