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NickBCotswold
13-03-2009, 09:07
hi y'all!
only a few practicals left on DL training - hopefully complete over the next couple of months so already thinking about an IFC course (defo interested in going down the instructor path!).... read plenty of threads about how enjoyable and worthwhile the IFC is and certainly those in my club(s) all seem to agree its very worthwhile!
However no one can really tell me exactly the following and certainly while mentioned on the BSAC website as a route for other agency instructors and BSAC Sports Divers the actual IFC isnt defined (that i can find easily! - comment there for web masters!!!)
Therefore:
1 - what is the objective of the IFC?
2 - what "qualifiction" do you get on successful completion?
3 - how is your performance measured on the course (ie, written exam/practical?)
4 - what does the "qualification" entitle you to do?
cheers ears!
Nick B
1 - what is the objective of the IFC?
An introduction to diver instruction. The idea being that you can then go back to your branch to put those skills into practise under the supervision of a NQI
2 - what "qualifiction" do you get on successful completion?
Assistant Diving Instructor
3 - how is your performance measured on the course (ie, written exam/practical?)
It is an attendance course not an examined course, hence only being able to teach under supervision
4 - what does the "qualification" entitle you to do?
Teach under supervision. Generally that supervision will start off very direct but will become less direct as your experience grows. The supervision should also include feed back to help you improve.
Once you feel confident and have finished DL you can then take the Open Water Instructor Course. Following that you can do the practical and theory instructor exams and having passed them you become an open water instructor
NickBCotswold
13-03-2009, 09:22
Brilliant!
Cheers Pete!
Nick
toptribefan
13-03-2009, 10:01
Should also point out that you dont need to be a DL to do the course, SD's can attend.
No need to wait on completion!!
NickBCotswold
13-03-2009, 10:05
Should also point out that you dont need to be a DL to do the course, SD's can attend.
No need to wait on completion!!
thanks!
Nick
garethwoodruff
13-03-2009, 10:34
I would throughly recommend the course. Its quite intensive, but really will help to improve your diving.
1 bit of advice for the pool work, make sure you have a shortie wetsuit to keep you warm, you spend a lot of time being shown how to teach skills in the pool.
Don't bother to wait till your a dive leader, get on it :)
Cheers,
gareth.
NickBCotswold
13-03-2009, 10:43
Don't bother to wait till your a dive leader, get on it :)
message received and understood!
cheers again!
Nick
Please, for the IFC, no twinsets, bring the simplest set you can (single cylinder, stab, conventional reg & octopus).
This makes things easier for you (as the 'instructor'), your students (others on the course), & your instructor.
Gareth
PS ** Don't forget your snorkel
northern_diver
13-03-2009, 14:30
I'm not ready to do the IFC yet myself, though in the not to distance future i would VERY much like to, but as some basic questions to add to Nicks-
What equipment do you actually have to take along with you? eg. do you really need to take your own weights and cylinder/s, though i can understand taking your own gear...pony though?
What sort of structure does the event take, on a day to day angle?
What sort of theory/practical do you cover? e.g Charts/dive planning/ advanced deco or is the knowledge around OD/SD only.
Sorry if they seem like basic questions, just wondered.
cheers,
John
Nigel Hewitt
13-03-2009, 14:48
I'm not ready to do the IFC yet myself, though in the not to distance future i would VERY much like to, but as some basic questions to add to Nicks-
What equipment do you actually have to take along with you? eg. do you really need to take your own weights and cylinder/s, though i can understand taking your own gear...pony though?
Pool gear.
You are play-acting instructor with total newbies
What sort of structure does the event take, on a day to day angle?
What sort of theory/practical do you cover? e.g Charts/dive planning/ advanced deco or is the knowledge around OD/SD only.
Sorry if they seem like basic questions, just wondered.
You are practicing (remember this is not an examined course) basic teaching skills with the emphasis on safety.
You get to do a lecture (second day so you prep it) and teach things like mask clearing, simple lifts, rescue breaths et. al.
The first day is basically demos and lectures to you and the second day you do stuff.
Actually getting the chance to get it wrong and see the rest of you group get it wrong is great.
Any fool can teach SD - it's teaching OD without letting them kill themselves that is the hard one. :D
I'm not ready to do the IFC yet myself, If you have passed sports diver you are ready to do an IFC. Think of it as a try-dive for would be instructors :)
What equipment do you actually have to take along with you?What you might have used on a try dive should do it. You have to provide it yourself though. Apart from pool kit you need a selection of stationary. The joining instructions will detail everything you need to take with you.
What sort of structure does the event take, on a day to day angle?The first day you get taught in the classroom and pool. The second day you practise in the classroom and pool. You learn throughout.
What sort of theory/practical do you cover? e.g Charts/dive planning/ advanced deco or is the knowledge around OD/SD only.Diving! You are not being tested on your knowledge. You are being taught how you might teach it.
Sorry if they seem like basic questions, just wondered.Stop wondering and sign up :D
Think of it as a try-dive for would be instructors :)
Genius! :o :D
can I (we) have permission to use it?
What you might have used on a try dive should do it. You have to provide it yourself though. Apart from pool kit you need a selection of stationary. The joining instructions will detail everything you need to take with you.
if you are travelling a distance you may be able to borrow cylinders and weights locally if you ask in advance.
Stop wondering and sign up :D
agreed go here (http://www.bsac.com/ifc);)
Jim
northern_diver
13-03-2009, 15:19
I must admit, i would like to do a IFC, i have done SD and some SDC's and done some other branchy stuff too...have to see....BSAC.com here i come :)
john
northern_diver
13-03-2009, 15:23
:D:) :D :) :D :)
no sooner than i look on the website for IFC, do i see my HOME BSAC club is running one in MY HOME area :D and i'll be home then :D that timing is great....signing up
john
garethwoodruff
13-03-2009, 15:37
And you get the title of assistant diving instructor and a sew on patch for your undersuit :p
Cheers,
gareth.
no sooner than i look on the website for IFC, do i see my HOME BSAC club is running one in MY HOME area :D and i'll be home then :D that timing is great....signing up
john
Well done, I doubt you will regret it[1] - everyone I know who has done it has enjoyed it
[1] Well you might when your alarm goes off well before dawn to take a couple of newbies on their first open water dive:D
can I (we) have permission to use it?Why of course :)
Why of course :)
until I find a more appropriate location your quote is in the introduction here (http://www.bsac.com/ifc)
simple but effective I think?;)
Jim
Hi there,
As the Open Water Instructor Development Officer it is my job to answer your questions - although I see most have been answered faily fully and correctly already (I have been on an event all weekend so first chance to see the thread). Please let me know if there is anything unanswered and I will provide you with the correct and official answers! (Not that I don't trust the posts on the forums, just sometimes they can get a little out of context -a bit like Chinese Whispers!).
Thanks
Sophie
NickBCotswold
02-04-2009, 12:14
hi all!!
just to let you know (those interested!) that this morning i bit the bullet and signed up for the IFC west mids in september! - would have been happy to do one sooner but theres nothing so close in that period of time and i've just had an offer for a new house accpeted, so will be busy moving over next 8 weeks (and trying to pay for it!)
know i dont need to, but hopefully get the remainder of DL out of the way by then (just a few practicals to do).
Nick B
Yazzyfooty
04-04-2009, 17:38
Hi there,
As the Open Water Instructor Development Officer it is my job to answer your questions - although I see most have been answered faily fully and correctly already (I have been on an event all weekend so first chance to see the thread). Please let me know if there is anything unanswered and I will provide you with the correct and official answers! (Not that I don't trust the posts on the forums, just sometimes they can get a little out of context -a bit like Chinese Whispers!).
Thanks
Sophie
DO what??? Is there an operation that will remove a head from an orifice?
There are some fantastic knowledgeable divers and Instructors that regularly contribute to this forum and who I am sure any information they give would be as valid as what you can give.
Mike Halligan
04-04-2009, 18:23
DO what??? Is there an operation that will remove a head from an orifice?
There are some fantastic knowledgeable divers and Instructors that regularly contribute to this forum and who I am sure any information they give would be as valid as what you can give.
I trust you don't mean what your first line appears to me to mean. :eek:
steve swift
26-06-2009, 13:24
Any fool can teach SD - it's teaching OD without letting them kill themselves that is the hard one.
Brilliant!! Can i have permission to use that one?!?
I trust you don't mean what your first line appears to me to mean. :eek:
Yeah i dont think she meant it exactly like that.
But the expected and actual meanings kind of got lost.
If it was a statement about certain people chiming into threads with a holier than thou attitude, i agree totally. If it wasnt well i apologise and bailout of this thread before i start another ruck. ;)
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