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Hi all
was wondering is it possible to be a member of more than 1 club ??
as i live about the same distance from 2 clubs and would like to join both for now anyway as not entirely happy with my current club (Dont seem to be on the in crowd to progess with training) but dont want to fully leave as have met some good people there also ....
cheers
tony
MSutcliffe
04-01-2009, 22:57
Yes, you can.
The membership secretary in club 2 will be able to help you sort it out.
Yazzyfooty
05-01-2009, 00:06
Hi all
was wondering is it possible to be a member of more than 1 club ??
as i live about the same distance from 2 clubs and would like to join both for now anyway as not entirely happy with my current club (Dont seem to be on the in crowd to progess with training) but dont want to fully leave as have met some good people there also ....
cheers
tony
Hi Tony
Yes you can be a member of more then one club but you will probably have to pay club membership fees (but not have to pay BSAC membership fees) twice.
You mention one of your reasons for leaving is that you feel you are not in the 'in crowd'. If you have made friends and met good people it seems a shame to leave for the reasons you give.
Have you considered discussing it with the club DO or even the chairman? If things are not raised then how can a club change and better itself.
Go on, be a mover and changer for those new members that are to join the club even if you choose to leave.
Richie N
05-01-2009, 18:52
Hi all
was wondering is it possible to be a member of more than 1 club ??
as i live about the same distance from 2 clubs and would like to join both for now anyway as not entirely happy with my current club (Dont seem to be on the in crowd to progess with training) but dont want to fully leave as have met some good people there also ....
cheers
tony
Tony, we have several members who belong to more than one club for various reasons - if you can't decide between clubs I'm sure they won't mind if you tagged along for a dive or maybe a social function - you could join BSAC direct whilst you do this and then decide upon a club later or not as the case may be.
Often with newer members its not until they go away for a weekends diving that things really take off, but it's getting your foot in the door and being accepted in the first place that can be tricky. Do persist as it takes a while to be 'accepted' as a good member by the regulars - its not normally a reflection of you as a person I'm sure but more of a reflection on the group.
good luck
Rich
Tony, we have several members who belong to more than one club for various reasons - if you can't decide between clubs I'm sure they won't mind if you tagged along for a dive or maybe a social function - you could join BSAC direct whilst you do this and then decide upon a club later or not as the case may be.
Rich
Surely if he joins BSAC Direct, that wont help his training issues, as he would then have to find a school to train with, or depending on diver grade (DL or adv) could do with regional, however he could use both options nowin his current position and still have social and diving with his friends.
Personally i suggest speaking with the DO or training officer, chances are there are other members in your branch who feel the same way, (we've had it in our branch).
At the end of the day, the officers of the club are doing a job at the request of the members, so if theres enough response to do training and the facilities to carry out the training then it should happen.
If they dont listen, then there is no problem in joining more than one branch, whoever i believe you have to list one as primary and one as secondary, this may have bearing on training, but membership secretary should clear all that up for you.
good luck and hope you resolve the matter
simon
Richie N
06-01-2009, 11:21
Surely if he joins BSAC Direct, that wont help his training issues, as he would then have to find a school to train with, or depending on diver grade (DL or adv) could do with regional, however he could use both options nowin his current position and still have social and diving with his friends.
simon
Agreed, but I meant more as the short term fix until a club is found and therefore save the expense of club dues which is the vast majority of a members renewal each year. But yes I agree, speak with the DO for sure at least first.
Rich.
If they dont listen, then there is no problem in joining more than one branch, whoever i believe you have to list one as primary and one as secondary, this may have bearing on training, but membership secretary should clear all that up for you.
simon
The only reason there is a primary Branch (and it could be BSAC Direct) is for the payment of BSAC membership fees. The days of the Diving Officer of the primary Branch having to sign-off qualifications are (thankfully) long gone. The 'lead instructor' of the branch or Centre that does the last lesson/assessment can now sign-off the Diver Qualification, The Branch Officers' Handbook at section 4.4.4 has
4.4.4 Authority: Award BSAC Diving Qualifications
In accordance with Diving Qualifications (Section 3.2.3) diving qualifications (Section 4.1.1) are awarded by the BSAC facility (Branch or Centre) that completed the training. The signature on the qualification page is purely confirmation that all the required elements for that diving qualification have been signed by a Qualified Instructor.
Both Branches and Centres are reminded that training carried out and verified as meeting the training requirements by the signature of a Qualified Instructor is acceptable and does not need to be repeated.
Notwithstanding the above any BSAC Branch or Centre is free to ask a new member or client to do a "check out" dive to confirm current level of dive fitness and baseline skills.
If anyone has any doubts as to the authenticity or membership status of a signatory a telephone call or email to HQ would normally resolve these doubts.
For Dual Members (Section 3.5.6) the above procedure should be followed.
Branch Committee approval is not required because:
• The National Diving Officer has delegated the authority to the lead instructor of the Branch, not to the Branch Committee.
• The National Diving Officer is not prepared to accept a situation where Committee Members less qualified could veto the decision of the Branch’s lead instructor for the award of a diving qualification.
Regards
Edward
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