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David Walker
17-03-2004, 02:15
If I do a non-BSAC nitrox course (namely TDI Advanced) would I later be able to teach on a BSAC nitrox course without having to actually go through and do the BSAC courses in their entirity myself? I know that there is a requirement to assist a course before teaching it yourself (or somehting like that), but if I did TDI would I have to do the Advanced Nitrox course as well?
I have looked around, and there are SALTs for Nitrox, but nothing is mentioned in the SDC syllabus / instructor requirements about possible SALT use for that.
Just planning ahead - the TDI course appeals more, but as i'll only ever be instructig BSAC then being able to instruct BSAC Nitrox may be useful in the future.
David
pauls1149
17-03-2004, 08:04
I understand that you would have to do an ?observe? before an assist. This is so that you know what is taught on the course. You will find the BSAC course has far less maths in it, talks very little about air equivalent depths and, of course, uses the BSAC nitrox tables. I think you would also need to ?obtain? the books used on the course.
One obvious question ? why not do the BSAC course?
You would need to buy the BSAC manuals and assist on a course, but that is all. You don't need to redo the BSAC course.
I would recommend going for the TDI course, it gives a much more flexible qualification
Dave
David Walker
17-03-2004, 11:31
I understand that you would have to do an ?observe? before an assist. This is so that you know what is taught on the course. You will find the BSAC course has far less maths in it, talks very little about air equivalent depths and, of course, uses the BSAC nitrox tables. I think you would also need to ?obtain? the books used on the course.
I had heard about having to 'observe' as well for things like Nitrox, Boat Handling etc, but I was looking around the BSAC website and the only things I could find only referred to assisting - that said, the BSAC website does seem to be very out of date / inaccurate in places, and I don't generally rely too much on what it says, hence asking.
One obvious question ? why not do the BSAC course?
I don't see anything particularly wrong with BSAC, but just from what i've seen it misses out some things which a lot of people using Nitrox seem to think is important, and has limitations / odd limits on its tables (the 1.4/1.44 ppo2 for example). The thing that initially attracted me to look away from BSAC though was the 100% O2 availability, not so much for diving, but so that I could get our club O2 cylinder filled!
It may be that filling O2 cylinders is not a particularly good reason for doing another course, but TDI does in general seem to be considered a 'better' course (and I know i'm going to get all sorts of arguments from that statement!) :O\
David
It may be that filling O2 cylinders is not a particularly good reason for doing another course,:=
It's not. Any O2 station will fill your O2 set, nitrox trained
or not. It is after all a medical (non-diving) set and as such
is obvioulsy specificly for that purpose.
but TDI does in general seem to be considered a 'better' course (and I know i'm going to get all sorts of arguments from that statement!) :O\:=
Sort of ....
TDI has got 2x advantagages and one disadvangtage. It may be
debatable if these "advantagages" would make that much
difference in your diving. IMO not much for a quite a few years
after the course and by the time you are getting to that point
you should be looking at an ER course anyway.
TerryH
As well as the observe and assist, presumably you are already an OWI.
As well as the observe and assist, presumably you are already an OWI.
Indeed. I was assuming that as being a given.
Dave
David Walker
17-03-2004, 22:49
As well as the observe and assist, presumably you are already an OWI.
Yeah... well, will be before i ever want to teach it - doing OWIC later this month, and probably TIE a week later. Although i've already taught several lessons anyway.
I just wanted to make sure I wasn't ruling out the possibility for the future (or at least not having to do largely the same course again).
David
David Walker
17-03-2004, 22:54
It's not. Any O2 station will fill your O2 set, nitrox trained
or not. It is after all a medical (non-diving) set and as such
is obvioulsy specificly for that purpose.
Ummm... not exactly! We were told a DIN cylinder would be good for our O2 kit! And of course, we later found out that we could't get it filled because it *could* be used for diving, and so to get it filled we need certification for 100% O2.
We aren't big fans of DAN - we weren't told about the potential problems at the time (although I wasn't involved at that time).
David
David Applin
17-03-2004, 23:30
:=It's not. Any O2 station will fill your O2 set, nitrox trained
:=or not. It is after all a medical (non-diving) set and as such
:=is obvioulsy specificly for that purpose.
Ummm... not exactly! We were told a DIN cylinder would be good for our O2 kit! And of course, we later found out that we could't get it filled because it *could* be used for diving, and so to get it filled we need certification for 100% O2.
We aren't big fans of DAN - we weren't told about the potential problems at the time (although I wasn't involved at that time).
David
Hmm,
Get the din cylinder marked up as "surface uee only" then not only will you avoid this problem but you will only need 5 year tests
Nothing wrong with DAN just the people filling your cylinders
Regards
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