bsac instructor looking for paid work abroad

[f1wade]

, does anyone have any vacancies or anyone know of anywhere to look to find such a thing?

Cheers
chris

[GaryC]

, does anyone have any vacancies or anyone know of anywhere to look to find such a thing?

Cheers
chris

I could be wrong here, but my understanding is that as a paid BSAC instructor just about anywhere in the world, you would need to be a PADI Instructor too.

[bythesea]

There are plenty of BSAC schools around the world, see main site for details.... but it has to be said....doing the PADI inst course will open a lot more oppertunities.

[Robs188]

....and then there is insurance, HSE medicals, risk assessments, paperwork, paperwork and more paperwork, first aid kits, 02 and paperwork..........

Seriously though, good luck if you find something.

[Adrian Kelland]

....and then there is insurance, HSE medicals, risk assessments, paperwork, paperwork and more paperwork, first aid kits, 02 and paperwork..........

Seriously though, good luck if you find something.
He did say abroad. No HSE.

[GaryC]

He did say abroad. No HSE.

Presumably what ever country you go to has a similar outfit to the HSE with varying degrees of control??

[Adrian Kelland]

Presumably what ever country you go to has a similar outfit to the HSE with varying degrees of control??
This being the important bit.

From observation in various places, I'd say this goes from non-existant to very little. There may well be law, but enforcement matters too.

[Ben Panter]

Hi Chris,

There is a list of all our overseas resorts and centres here:

http://www.bsactravelclub.co.uk/schools/centresos.htm

I don't think that HQ maintains a formal job spaces register, but if you give them a ring they might be able to help.

cheers,

Ben

[Richard Whitcombe]

I could be wrong here, but my understanding is that as a paid BSAC instructor just about anywhere in the world, you would need to be a PADI Instructor too.

I'd agree with that. Even BSAC schools are normally multi agency and most of the ones ive seen may do 20 PADI courses for each BSAC. The last one i worked at did over 100 padi qualifications and exactly 0 requests for bsac.

As for HSE and so on. Different countries have different rules but you'd be hard pressed to find anywhere on the planet anywhere near as tightly regulated and wrapped in red tape as the UK.

[Steve in Sharm]

Presumably what ever country you go to has a similar outfit to the HSE with varying degrees of control??

PMSL......................:D

[Eddie Clamp]

PMSL......................:D

Likely I will be around Shark bay for a while on the 16th Aug awaiting flight to the UK. Can u explain all this to a simple ex-Matelot? :D

TTFN :rolleyes:

Eddie

[PeteM]

Likely I will be around Shark bay for a while on the 16th Aug awaiting flight to the UK. Can u explain all this to a simple ex-Matelot? :D

http://www.internetslang.com/PMSL.asp

[GaryC]

http://www.internetslang.com/PMSL.asp

Thanks...

I was too frightened to ask him.

[toptribefan]

Likely I will be around Shark bay for a while on the 16th Aug awaiting flight to the UK. Can u explain all this to a simple ex-Matelot? :D

TTFN :rolleyes:

Eddie

We do try not to hold it against you but this has more to do with your age rather than choice of service!! ;)

[Steve in Sharm]

Likely I will be around Shark bay for a while on the 16th Aug awaiting flight to the UK. Can u explain all this to a simple ex-Matelot? :D

TTFN :rolleyes:

Eddie

MATELOT!!!!!!!

I only talk to Bootnecks and RN Chefs (cos they must be 'well hard').

If you're in SB Umbi itself, say 'Hi' to my Missus (Bev) as she has just gone back to work after a months holiday and is feeling tired..........

Steve

[johnny1760]

Hi just a helping hand re working as a BSAC instructor abroad

Firstly I too am in the process of looking for work overseas, I am a BSAC Instructor but have gone through the ranks both PADI up to MSD and BSAC up to advanced diver, I am doing the PADI OWSI (You will also need to do several speciality instructor courss too) (Drift, wreck, deep, multilevel, night, boat peak performance buyency etc etc the list covers in the region of 25)

As Im BSAC Adv diver I dont have to do divemaster course so its a cross over qualification, cost approx £350 plus the IE (instructors Exam), basically instruction is instruction but you need to know how to teach the PADI sylabus. Im not finding it too dificult though I have gone through both agencies. One isnt better than the other there is good in both agencies.

My advice to you would be to do the same and cross over to PADI it will certainly open up more job oppertunities, that said there are one or two schools overseas who do want BSAC but there are hundreds who require PADI

over to you.

Regards

Johnny

[GaryC]

Firstly I too am in the process of looking for work overseas, I am a BSAC Instructor but have gone through the ranks both PADI up to MSD and BSAC up to advanced diver, I am doing the PADI OWSI (You will also need to do several speciality instructor courss too) (Drift, wreck, deep, multilevel, night, boat peak performance buyency etc etc the list covers in the region of 25)



Regards

Johnny

Whats the take on doing the speciality courses. Do you have to have done them before the PADI IE or are they taught to you in addition. How many do you have to do. Guess its all additional costs.

If you get PADI OWSI can you add more specialities after.

[Steve in Sharm]

Whats the take on doing the speciality courses. Do you have to have done them before the PADI IE or are they taught to you in addition. How many do you have to do. Guess its all additional costs.

If you get PADI OWSI can you add more specialities after.

There a number of ways of getting Speciality Instructor ratings.

The 1st is to pay a PADI Course Director to teach you how to teach that speciality, and then you pay PADI for the licence to teach it.

The 2nd is to 'self' certify that you can teach it, and then just pay PADI for the licence.

Let me explain method 2:

Are you a British Waters diver? (yes), Do you dive in a Drysuit? (yes), have you done more than xx number of dives in a drysuit? (yes), do you promise to teach the subject according to the PADI syllabus laid down in the Speciality Instructor manual? (yes).

So why pay a CD to teach you how to teach "Drysuit Diving"

Re-read the above and substitute drysuit with anything you want (wreck, night, altitude, nitrox etc etc etc)

Now ask yourself do I need to pay a PADI Course Director a boat load (boat load, we're divers - geddit.......?) of cash to get the licences..

You need to be a PADI OWSI 1st, but after that you can add as many specialities as you wish.



Steve

[Richard Whitcombe]

Whats the take on doing the speciality courses. Do you have to have done them before the PADI IE or are they taught to you in addition. How many do you have to do. Guess its all additional costs.

If you get PADI OWSI can you add more specialities after.

Some IDC/IEs will offer some "free" specialities at the same time as doing that course. Otherwise you can pay a course director to teach you some.

Alternatively, once you have OWSI just get 25 certs then self-certify for the ones you want to teach (costs about £50 each).

You certainly dont need all of them. Nitrox, Digital underwater photo/wreck/deep are probably the really commonly asked for ones. Drysuit obviously in the UK but not as applicable abroad.

Depending where you end up depends on specialities too. Some places focus almost entirely on core courses (open water and AOW in the main) whereas others tend to market the specialities more so they may or may not be usefu.

[Diane Millward]

As part owner of a dive centre, I have to say if you have BSAC and PADI instructor status you willbe a gem to a dual association school, but there are schools who just want BSAC, usually the bigger ones so look at them first, the smaller operations tend to need dual or just PADI.
As for insurances you will need 3rd party liability wherever you go, but the dive centre should be able to help and advise you on that if they decide to employ you, make sure you are also personally insured, just in case you need a chamber, dont forget as an instructor you will be diving a lot in heat, believe me its not glamour its hard work, and you dont get to choose who you teach or guide, and there are some real muppets out there from all associations, it will be a real eye opener to you!!

As for pay.....well that depends on where you go it ranges from £450.00 to 700.00 per month, dont expect to get rich!! Depends on the country, I know one instructor who was told the owners gardener got paid more than him...that was in the Bahamas, do your research well