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d1arm1d
02-05-2008, 15:24
Is there any way for users to do this? If for example one was to accidentally start my ... er... one's new thread in the wrong forum due to being :confused: as happened to a ... ahem ... friend of mine.

Or do we need to wait for admin to sort it?

Cheers,

Diarmid

PeteM
02-05-2008, 15:46
Is there any way for users to do this? If for example one was to accidentally start my ... er... one's new thread in the wrong forum due to being :confused: as happened to a ... ahem ... friend of mine.

Press the edit button just under the bottom of the post. The edit form has a delete button to remove it.

I deleted the duplicate post in the wrong place that your "friend" posted earlier ;)

d1arm1d
09-05-2008, 13:45
Cheers :)

d1arm1d
09-05-2008, 14:41
However, I must be still :confused: because I can't find the actual delete button in the edit form. Tried used Firefox & Explorer too! :(

PeteM
09-05-2008, 15:11
However, I must be still :confused: because I can't find the actual delete button in the edit form. Tried used Firefox & Explorer too! :(

http://www.scubamad.plus.com/images/delete.jpg

Nigel Hewitt
09-05-2008, 15:11
I can't even find the edit button at 14:11
Is something in mid fix? Nope. Come back.

I don't remember delete....

Us mere plebs have "Save", "Go Advanced" and "Cancel"

Looking back over old posts the edit button is gone. Is there a statute of limitations on spelling mistakes because it normally takes a day or so for me to spot the wrong word.

PeteM
09-05-2008, 15:18
I can't even find the edit button at 14:11
Is something in mid fix? Nope. Come back.

I don't remember delete....

Us mere plebs have "Save", "Go Advanced" and "Cancel"

You can only edit an entry for a limited time after making it, an hour I think. We were getting a lot of innocuous posts later being edited to spam and not being spotted because of it. Most people only want to edit a post because they spot a typo just after submitting. This would be why you don't have edit in some circumstances.

I thought everyone had delete. Will need to consult with others

Vic
09-05-2008, 15:26
I don't remember delete....

Us mere plebs have "Save", "Go Advanced" and "Cancel"

That's how it stands at present; you need Moderator status to have the Delete button.

I don't know whether or not it's deliberate; I believe it to be appropriate.

Looking back over old posts the edit button is gone. Is there a statute of limitations on spelling mistakes

Yep.

Vic.

PeteM
09-05-2008, 15:30
Is there any way for users to do this? If for example one was to accidentally start my ... er... one's new thread in the wrong forum due to being :confused: as happened to a ... ahem ... friend of mine.

Or do we need to wait for admin to sort it?

Cheers,

Diarmid

OK revised instructions - send a moderator a personal message asking for it to be deleted

Ari
13-05-2008, 17:26
That must be a recent change as I remember having the edit option for all old posts .... Makes sense to limit it if it is getting abused however.

Nigel Hewitt
14-05-2008, 00:50
You can only edit an entry for a limited time after making it, an hour I think.I'm sure this wasn't like this as I always get things wrong and need to fix them.

I was quite used to re-reading and fixing things later and now my errors must stand forever.
Is it really that necessary?

MattS
14-05-2008, 02:23
I'm sure this wasn't like this as I always get things wrong and need to fix them.

I was quite used to re-reading and fixing things later and now my errors must stand forever.
Is it really that necessary?You get an hour to edit and you can always request a moderator fixes something for you. How long might you need to edit your post before you are happy to let it stand and live with whatever embarrasment it might cause you in later years? We may be able to accomodate you. Just ask.

Nigel Hewitt
14-05-2008, 08:42
You get an hour to edit and you can always request a moderator fixes something for you. How long might you need to edit your post before you are happy to let it stand and live with whatever embarrasment it might cause you in later years? We may be able to accomodate you. Just ask.
Spelling mistakes and gramatical errors never surface for 24 hours.

Is this one hour game new?
I'm sure I used to fix things days later.

Adrian Kelland
14-05-2008, 08:48
Spelling mistakes and gramatical errors never surface for 24 hours.

Is this one hour game new?
I'm sure I used to fix things days later. It used to be open ended Nigel. Personally I'd prefer longer, even open ended - I do like to be able to keep things like a dive list current on the first post of a thread.

Your spelling mistakes must be more subtle than mine, I notice mine almost immediately after posting :(

Adrian

John Bantin
14-05-2008, 08:55
Its the red lines under the spelligs mistakes that darw the eye...

PeteM
14-05-2008, 09:24
Spelling mistakes and gramatical errors never surface for 24 hours.

Is this one hour game new?
I'm sure I used to fix things days later.

Yes it is new but it is there for a reason, to stop link spam

Nigel Hewitt
14-05-2008, 10:16
Your spelling mistakes must be more subtle than mine, I notice mine almost immediately after posting :(off and of, breathe and breath, that sort of thing.
It reads right if I reread it at once but stands out a mile a couple of days later.

Ari
14-05-2008, 10:25
My two cents (as they say)
I certainly find it handy to be able to update comments later on, I try to add to them or correct (stating it is a correction). It is also handy to be able to update a list etc in an original post for a thread. Would it be possible to make this perhaps a privilege available to users who have been about a long time perhaps (or have certain amounts of points, or have entered BSAC membership details perhaps ..). At any rate would be good to have at least a week (in my opinion) I think an hour is just a bit short. I do however prefer to have some limit and no SPAM …

Thanks

Keith Lawrence
14-05-2008, 11:55
Hi Folks

I was the Admin who initially implemented the limit, it's a standard vB feature that we've resisted using up until now, but things just got too much. The problem is not our regular and responsible users, they were using the privilege correctly. But in recent times that type of usage has been in the minority, the privilege was being abused far more than it was being used.

Unfortunately it is a global option, it's a 'one size fits all' across all user groups and forums. That may change in future version of vB but as it stands now we are unable to grant the privilege to specific user groups such as BSAC members. On other forums I use it is either turned off (no edits allowed) or around 5 minutes, we've got it set at 1 hour as that should be enough to spot grandma and spilling errors.

Personally I don't think we should go back to unlimited, as an Admin we have enough mess to clear up so anything that helps is welcome, remember that we put the limit on due to the fact it was being abused more than used. But I have started a straw poll amongst the Admins to see what limit we're all happy with, so we'll reach a consensus and go with that. I feel that this is an Admin decision as we have to live with the consequences!

I hear what you're saying about lists etc. so we'll have to come up with something to fix that problem. Moderators are allowed to edit posts, if some of our regular and long established members are maintaining a specific list then we could make them moderators in that forum to allow edit, just be careful you don't edit other peoples by mistake :) If it's lists of users then have you tried using public polls? People add themselves to a list by 'voting' in a poll. On another forum I use there is a weekly 'Who is going where?' list that does just that, the different destinations are listed as poll options and people "vote" for where they are going in a public poll, I'll set one up as a demo so you can see a self maintaining list.

So no easy answer to this one folks, I feel that we need a limit and are stuck with it due to abuse. The only real question is what that limit is.

Keith L

MattS
14-05-2008, 11:56
Its the red lines under the spelligs mistakes that darw the eye...Whether or not a particular browser underlines spelling mistakes in red is a bit of a gray area ;)

Sadly I have been reading technology manualz and writing computer programs so long that I can no longer memorize correct spellings for the purpose of Human dialog to as encyclopedic a level as others. My punctuation is alas sometimes bizzare. I remain thankful that as Humans we can choose to use our judgment and be tollerant of syntactical errors in the pursuit of understanding anothers meaning. Personally I tire very eazily with quareling over what I feel are the less significant things in life. In my defense I have leareded that others may find analyzing of the written word and cataloging of a persons errors a favorite pastime to a degree I would never have dreamed of. Providing ensuing argument is not offensive and criticizm is not undue I will honor anothers rite to fulfill themselves as they so wish. :p

[There is a hat and coat around here somewhere]

Mike Halligan
14-05-2008, 11:57
Thanks for explaining, chaps. I shall just have to be much more craeful in fuutre.

Vic
14-05-2008, 12:09
if some of our regular and long established members are maintaining a specific list then we could make them moderators in that forum

I've never been a fan of running lists on a forum; the nature of threaded posts means that you get divergence - someone will add themselves to a list in one post, and someone else will add themselves to a different post. You end up with someone having to clean up all the time :-(

If we really want these lists (and personally, I don't see the point), there are better ways of doing it...

Vic.

PeteM
14-05-2008, 12:45
If we really want these lists (and personally, I don't see the point), there are better ways of doing it...

What we need is something like a normal web page that can be edited by any user :D

Vic
14-05-2008, 12:52
What we need is something like a normal web page that can be edited by any user :D

That would be my solution - but it's my solution to most collaboration problems. But there are other ways as well... :-)

Vic.

Kris2
13-04-2009, 22:29
would be nice to be able to remove your own out of date posts as the powers that be, seem not to bother doing so.

PeteM
13-04-2009, 23:24
would be nice to be able to remove your own out of date posts as the powers that be, seem not to bother doing so.

Thanks for that, really nice that the two or three hours a day looking after this forum is so appreciated

Fiona
14-04-2009, 10:06
would be nice to be able to remove your own out of date posts as the powers that be, seem not to bother doing so.

Surely the only posts which can be out of date are personal ads, if you sell an item just update the thread.

Nigel Hewitt
14-04-2009, 10:26
would be nice to be able to remove your own out of date posts as the powers that be, seem not to bother doing so.
Well I think there ought to be some sort of statute of limitations...
Like I cannot be held responsible now for views I held a year ago. :D

However deleting them is changing the record of a conversation and I don't like that. If I called somebody a bumbling idiot in January and I now discover that he was exactly right why should I deprive him of the delight of watching me post the groveling retraction rather than discover I was apparently never part of the thread. :rolleyes:

Fiona
14-04-2009, 10:32
Well I think there ought to be some sort of statute of limitations...
Like I cannot be held responsible now for views I held a year ago. :D



Why should you be any different, my views from 4 or 5 years ago have come back to haunt me on many occasions, and some people will still be reminding me in another 5 :D

Mike Halligan
14-04-2009, 20:36
Well I think there ought to be some sort of statute of limitations...
Like I cannot be held responsible now for views I held a year ago. :D



I once had a colleague who employed a 48-hour rule. If he'd heard it, said it, written it or read it more than 48 hours before then he didn't consider himself totally beholden after such a passage of time.

Strangely enough, he seemed to get away with this more often that not. :p Worth a try, I suppose :D :D

Adrian Kelland
14-04-2009, 21:05
I once had a colleague who employed a 48-hour rule. If he'd heard it, said it, written it or read it more than 48 hours before then he didn't consider himself totally beholden after such a passage of time.

Strangely enough, he seemed to get away with this more often that not. :p Worth a try, I suppose :D :D
It probably goes for your ulimate bosses too. ;)

Mike Halligan
14-04-2009, 21:59
It probably goes for your ulimate bosses too. ;)
Penultimate sentence = their life experience; :(
Ultimate sentence = the rule they apply to our lives; :mad:
(aka "What's yours is mine, what's mine's my own.")

Maria CM
15-04-2009, 15:08
Thanks for that, really nice that the two or three hours a day looking after this forum is so appreciated

:hug:

best wishes,

Maria