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Paul Oliver
22-02-2003, 21:06
Guys

Anyone in the know please can i have some tips and recommendations on Scapa. We are not planning to go for a while yet but want to get the groundwork done well in advance.

We are proberably 12, possibly more, travelling up from Kent. So a good charter boat, accom and travel tips would be very welcome. We will proberably be all diving on Nitrox, but may have a couple on air. No Trimix or CCR. We are experienced wreck divers.

Questions:-

1. Boat recomendations?
2. Accom Recomendations?
3. Are Bottles and lead generally available? Long way to haul ours.
4. Top Wrecks?

All help greatfully recieved, and ThanX in advance.

Paul

matt
26-02-2003, 16:27
Guys

Anyone in the know please can i have some tips and recommendations on Scapa. We are not planning to go for a while yet but want to get the groundwork done well in advance.

We are proberably 12, possibly more, travelling up from Kent. So a good charter boat, accom and travel tips would be very welcome. We will proberably be all diving on Nitrox, but may have a couple on air. No Trimix or CCR. We are experienced wreck divers.

You can do the travel two ways, the hard way is to start mid afternoon, drive through the night and arrive at Scrabster around 6am ready for the ferry at 9ish. Make sure you fuel up at Aberdeen. The easy way is to drive up and stop the night in Thurso, the Weigh inn is very reasonable with beds from 25 quid.
<a href="http://www.s-h-systems.co.uk/hotels/weighinn.html" >http://www.s-h-systems.co.uk/hotels/weighinn.html</a>


Generally all the boats supply air inclusive. Most boats have Nitrox but it is expensive. Only a couple boats do helium and it is damn expensive

Boats with Helium
John Thornton MV Karin
<a href="http://www.scapaflowtechnical.com/" >http://www.scapaflowtechnical.com/</a>

European Technical Dive Centre MV Crombie, MV Loyal Mediator
<a href="http://www.technicaldivers.com/" >http://www.technicaldivers.com/</a>

Questions:-

1. Boat recomendations?

If you are diving in the flow the boats are much of a muchness. Try and find a skipper you like. I have used Annette Rosenkilde 3 times. Skipper Neil McGibbon is very easy going which can be important if your club group isn't.

<a href="http://www.annette-rosenkilde.co.uk/" >http://www.annette-rosenkilde.co.uk/</a>

2. Accom Recomendations?

I slept on the boat berthed in Stromness once. It gets crowded by the end of the week. I have also used B&B which was comfortable but gets expensive. For 12 you could do half on the boat and half in B&B then swap midweek splitting costs evenly.

I have used the ETDC which is based out the Sands hotel and there are some chalets near by. I liked it but it is very quiet in the evenings. For your first trip you probably want to be in Stromness.

3. Are Bottles and lead generally available? Long way to haul ours.

Yes, single cylinders and lead. You need to check ahead if you want 12s for twinning.

4. Top Wrecks?

If it is your first trip then do the tour.
All 3 battleships are must do.
The cruisers are pretty good but I can't tell one from the other. The F2 is worth a look but only once. Try and get at least one of the block ships in, you need to check the tides. The drift down gutter sound is to be avoided. The Radiation looks like it should be in Stoney Cove. The James Barrie is OK but was over crowded. You will hear people rave about the Barrie cos the vis is good, IMHO it just aint that interesting.

HTH
Regards
Matt

Paul Oliver
27-02-2003, 00:00
Matt

Top stuff and very helpfull. I should have added that we will proberably all be DL or AD, are no nonsence divers who do not take ouselves too seriously and proberably spend more time taking the micky than talking anything technical or sencible.

Regards

Paul

Nick Kay
27-02-2003, 13:59
Paul

I organised a trip/expedition to Scapa last year:
- 3 boats
- 3 sets of digs
- 36 divers plus 1 non-diving girlfriend
- 49 seater coach (probably overweight)
- Ferry from Scrabster

Send me your email address & I'll forward all the stuff I have - including photos take on the trip...

Dave Covey
07-03-2003, 07:53
Ollie,

Why not contact the legendary short fat scotsman? (Ronnie Hay, an Army friend of the pair of us!)

I've got his email address & I'm sure he'll point you in the right direction.

(86c)

NeilB
10-03-2003, 12:01
We went a few years ago and lived onboard. Sorry but I can't remember the name of the boat but most of the livaboards up there are similar in quality and style. Lead and cylinders onboard.
We got to the Orkney Islands by P&O ferry from Aberdeen. It's less of a drive than Scrabster. The ferry leaves Aberdeen in the afternoon and arrives late evening (just in time for a beer). On the way back for a few quid extra you get a cabin and sleep away the overnight sailing leaving you fresh for the drive back.

I can recommend the Stromness Hotel - good drop of beer.

Have fun.

stevie adams
20-04-2003, 06:14
we've been 3 times in the last 12 months,
our branch have been going every year for the last 22.

1. i recomend the Jean Elaine, ct Andy Cuthbertson <a href="http://www.jeanelaine.co.uk/" >http://www.jeanelaine.co.uk/</a>
2. accomodation traditionally 'the ferry Inn' although the Stromness Hotel,and the Royal Hotel do a good deal as well.
(?20 a night b&b in the Ferry Inn 01856850280)
3. bottles and lead are part of the charter
4.if its your first time,stick to the wrecks in the flow.
kronprinz,margraf,koenig,dresden,koln,brummer,karl sruhe,
bayern turrets,f2.
also the blockships are excellent
(out of the Flow is superb but you would have to do liveaboard.)
Hope this helps.
If you want more advice eg travelling ect mail me.
(if you have spare places let me know!)
Stevie